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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 10:38am
 
I'll find out soon... I just a different state away from my house so its difficult to get info on the fly.
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Reply #16 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 6:24pm
 
Gotcha!  Thanks!   Smiley
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Reply #17 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 9:51pm
 
i still say that just because there are irresponsible parents, children should not have to be subjected to what is on the internet.
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Reply #18 - Feb 20th, 2006 at 5:40am
 
Then, I guess most children would have to be locked in a box because they shouldn't be able to watch most of the TV shows or go to the library to view questionable material either...

Our problem is that too many parents want others to raise their children.  It IS the PARENT'S responsibility.   They need to step up to the plate if they have a problem with what their kids are viewing.  Too many parents won't shoulder the blame for their own lack of responsibility. Why should a responsible parent and their children have to suffer from censorship because someone else won't take the time to monitor their children?

Andrew....
I disagree about websites and emails writing out stuff like that...day after day, I get an email box full of crap from places trying to sell me stuff like Viagra, stocks, mortgages, porno stuff, etc... It's really annoying.  I have a junk email filter, but the companies just add spaces or misspell things on purpose to get around it.  I really can't do much about it except adding the email address to my spam list... even that doesn't work, since most of those companies just re-send out the emails from a different email address....

Your parents at least took the time to try to keep some of the inappropriate information away.  They should be commended also in their awareness that as you and your sibling showed responsible behavior, they also showed you their trust in you as well (by allowing you to have access to a computer in your rooms)...Sadly, most parents are not that way. Obviously, you must have demonstrated that you were capable of being a responsible person as well.
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Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2006 at 9:03am
 
And let me just add that I know quite a few parents that only let their children watch a few hours of tv each week!
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Reply #20 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:06am
 
I was never allowed to get a game system nor did we get cable until a few years back(when I was in 9th gradeish)... my parents didn't want me and my brother sitting in front of the TV all day watching cartoons or playing games. So yes there are parents that regulate tv.

I think to say the internet should be only 18 and over and such is wrong. Not everyone is bad, its just there are headlines out there. I never had problems(heck I was programming websites at age 13!) nor did my brother, or my longtime girlfriend. Right now I have a 10 year old sister - my parents let her surf the internet only when myself or my parents are in the room. They do let her have AIM but they make sure everyone is blocked except her "buddies" and they sit right near her. It works for her. I remember my parents used to not allow me and my brother to be online when they weren't home and since we had dial-up they would call and check to see if the line was busy.

As for people rewritting stuff to get by... yes it happens but from my experience when I was "under" the program any time one of my friends said even the most common swear words it kicked me out. Any time anything said you must be 18/21 and older it kicked me out. I remember trying to get to some website about rock climbing but it wouldn't let me get through because it said "anyone not 18 and over must need a parent present." Yeah the program didn't stop everything, but it really did a pretty darn good job. Just like how you can't block everything bad on TV, I don't think it is possible to block everything, but the program my parents had did about as good of job as possible and allowed them not have to worry about us every second they werent in the same room.  It created a pictoral log so basically if parents saw that a certain child had alot of things in the log they know they could be doing more bad stuff and stop them.
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Reply #21 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 3:44am
 
I think I have said this before, but if not, I certainly thought it!  You are a very old soul Andrew!  Wise beyond your years!  I think you will go very far in life!  Take it wherever you want to go! Wink
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Reply #22 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 7:20am
 
Andrew,

Your parents obviously care about you and your siblings and have raised a responsible young adult! Smiley

My own family was very strict. I wasn't allowed to go to even PG movies until about 17 or 18.  R movies were out of the question.
My parents set boundaries and for the most part, I followed them--Maybe they "scared" it into me-- I don't know, but I
did know that they expected their children to behave properly, as well as to do well in our studies, our music, or whatever  extracurricular activities we were involved in doing. I wasn't even allowed to date (not that it really mattered-- I wouldn't have had time for a boyfriend with all of the extracurricular music activities I was doing-- 1-1/2 to 2 hours of Piano and 1 to 1-1/2 hours of violin practice every day.)  Luckily for me, I met a great guy in college and we've now been together over 20 years....  I think my parents did a pretty good job of raising me and I turned out okay!  (This is not to say that there were some bumps along the way.)

Of course I'm a little older than you, and female, so some of the things you have exposure to were not even available to me as a kid. My younger brother (who will be 30 in a few weeks) had a few more freedoms than I did.  Even so, my parents limited his video game play time as well as TV time. He did not have 500 video games and a Game Boy to distract him--he, too was encouraged to play music (violin & piano) as well as to participate in school athletics.   
None of us were allowed to watch endless hours of TV--my sister (3 yrs younger) and brother (9 yrs younger) and I also did not have cable TV
(partly because a neighbor would not allow the cable to go through their yard, and partly because of expense and it  being a time-waster.)

Now, as an adult I do spend a lot of time online (due to work and other interests), I still do not have Cable TV and only just got DSL in my home in 2003....I also refuse to carry or buy a cell phone (unless it is my work phone.) I live a pretty busy life even without all of these extras-- I don't have much time to watch TV as it is... when do i have time to watch even more channels?

As a kid, my mom had me write out a poem entitled "Children Learn What They Live" Even to this day, it's very faded but still on the wall of my parent's house... and it totally makes sense.   

http://www.joyfulministry.com/learnf.htm

If parents want to raise responsible kids, then they also need to step up to plate and show their kids the path.  As much as the kids may grumble about it, in the long run, that extra discipline and rules will be appreciated...
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Reply #23 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:49am
 
I think that for the most part, I too was like you Iris.  Brought up in a very strict environment.  I was an only child.  Not allowed to date or attend the prom!  I had a curfew of midnight from the time I was 18 until 19.  Then 2am until I was 21.  I still believe what can happen after midnight can happen before midnight!  But that's besides the point. 
I feel that even though you are brought up in a strict household, you still have the mind to do the right thing or not.  I lived in a neighborhood where everyone was sneaking out at night.  Doing things they shouldn't be doing.  Smoking cigarettes and other things that they shouldn't have been smoking.  Maybe I was "scared" into not doing it maybe I just thought that it wasn't for me, point being, I listened and learned.  You always have choices.  It's what you do with those choices that makes you who you are.  I watched plenty of TV and played plenty of Nintendo.  As a matter of fact, my parents would make me go out to punish me! I loved violent mob movies, thrillers!  That didn't make me a murderer.    Not that I ever did anything wrong mind you!  I was the perfect child to have.  At least I think so.  I was very strong willed though.  I did need to find certain things out for myself. 
I couldn't live without cable TV.  A cell phone?  I would love to live without one of those!  Mainly because I don't always like to be accessable!  Leave some mystery somewhere!  I just got high-speed internet.  But I love gadgets!
Extra discipline should be taught young.  It stays with you forever!
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Reply #24 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 10:13am
 
I remember when we first got the internet... well like a year after we got this cool internet brower... kinda like a kid friendly version of Internet Explorer. Perhaps a company needs to come out with a program that blocks websites and bad stuff but also make it friendly for kids  - I mean if kids are going to surf the net they should atleast surf it in a kid-friendly form. Perhaps Microsoft/Apple could include a kid-friendly browser on their computers. If the internet won't be faught, companies mind as well create something to imbrace in the right sense for kids. Little things can go a long ways if they are inplanted in kids earlier enough.
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Reply #25 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 5:11pm
 
please keep in mind though that i believe responsible parents are few and far between.  having gone through "growing pains" with two of my own children, i sadly witnessed irresponsible parenting on a daily basis from their friends parents.  also, with the divorce rate nearing 50%, the "ideal" family is no longer a given.
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Reply #26 - Feb 21st, 2006 at 7:36pm
 
Yahoo's got a great setup for kids:

http://yahooligans.yahoo.com/

I've got my kid his own login, (he can't get into mine without my password), and he logs in and goes right to the kids page.  He has tons of places to go from there, and his login is set with parental controls.  It keeps him totally engaged, but won't let him stray into adult areas.  Plus, the computer is set up where everyone can see it.  And he can't use it when we aren't home.  I think it's a great setup, and he learns so much. 

But we do keep a close eye on him anyway.
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Reply #27 - Feb 22nd, 2006 at 12:52pm
 
That's what I'm saying... More parents need to step up to the plate...
As a society, we've gone away from discipline and respect of authority....
Divorce is seen as an easy way out, and far too often the first thing that crosses people's minds
when they hit even a little bump in the world... Too many people give up with out even trying to learn to communicate...

Not to say that my childhood was perfect either, but again, I was taught to respect my parents and other adult figures and to know my boundaries as a child....
I also was fortunate and I did get to attend the prom, but my mom & dad stuck me with my God-brother who was 6 years older than me and a COMPLETE nerd (not that I wasn't a nerd, but even so....)   I was completely mortified when he showed up with a white tux, black shirt and skinny white tie.  Great for a college guy that was into punk styling, but not exactly what I had hoped for, when attending a prom fiilled with black tuxes, colorful cummerbunds and bow ties....
(my high school was pretty "preppy" back in the day.) LOL...

In hind sight, I'm sure he was just as thrilled about going to prom with a bunch of 14-18 year olds... LOL... but he did drive us to Greek Town where we went to a Greek restaurant and tried some Greek food for the first time! He would have even bought us a few drinks if he hadn't left his wallet at home! It was one of the only times I ever got to come home late while in high school (2 a.m.) 

Ah, the innocence of children back then.... :-D

I don't have kids yet, and I sometimes wonder if I even want to have to raise kids in a world filled with so much uncertainty....
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Reply #28 - Feb 22nd, 2006 at 6:28pm
 
Now I can really understand why my father didn't want me to go to prom.  Tradition in Florida high schools is to go out after prom and go to the beach to watch the sunrise!  You wouldn't be home until the next morning!  Obviously, lots of things went on!
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Reply #29 - Feb 23rd, 2006 at 12:45am
 
Actually, I understand that there are many instances of "innocence being lost" on prom night.... even my best friend's boyfriend at the time tried-- although she was firm in her stance. Smiley  (She'll be getting married this coming summer).

My parents would have killed me had I gotten any drinks, although I knew better than to even try.
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