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My Space on Dateline Last Night
Feb 5th, 2006 at 8:31am
 
Did anyone watch Dateline NBC last night?
It was about the problem of adults soliciting kids on the Internet .  Which led to a conversation about myspace.  That's where most of these predators were soliciting the kids. 
My news programs continued the contraversy.  It must be scary bringing up teenagers now!
Read these:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11103248/
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=47201
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Reply #1 - Feb 10th, 2006 at 2:40am
 
Solodka,

I can tell you from first hand experience that part of the problem stems from the kids using
"provocative" screen names... It is amazing how many students will put on their college applications their
email address and it's something like "2hot2handle@yahoo.com" or "juicygirl@yahoo.com" or "hotbabe@hotmail.com" or something else suggestive or provocative.  Usually, as a university, we will contact the kid and ask for a more professional and appropriate email address, vs. some of these crazy ones...  Given the sexy screennames, it's not too suprising that there are people who prey on these kids...

Part of the problem is that parents don't monitor what their kids are doing either-- lots of kids are posting personal info on themselves online that should not be posted...  Too many parents are letting the internet babysit their kids, vs. making sure that they are participating in age-appropriate activities online.  Parents constantly tell kids not to talk to strangers in real life, but little is done in the way of protecting them from bad strangers online.
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2006 at 9:50am
 
imo, the internet should not be accessible to anyone under 18.  period.
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2006 at 11:04am
 
bookies_original wrote on Feb 11th, 2006 at 9:50am:
imo, the internet should not be accessible to anyone under 18.  period.


I'm not sure I'd go that far. Parents really need to take responsibility for monitoring their children's
activities online as well....

There are lots of valuable and educational websites around that are helpful in teaching children
about the world around them. Where it goes astray is when the parents don't pay attention and the children wander
into other areas that are not age-appropriate. 

If a parent was in a video store, most wouldn't allow their 10 year old
or even a 16 year old into the XXX rated section of the video store,
because it is socially considered not age-appropriate.
However, many parents don't even know what their kids are doing online....
They don't take the time to find out.

The other problem has to do with email-- even if the kids are not on an explicit website,
they do not realize how much trouble they can get for sending the wrong person the wrong emails...
Whether it means that they could potentially "harm" someone else (via a threat) or if
they've been giving their own personal information out to strangers who could hurt them....

Recently, a high school kid sent a very nasty email to an admissions counselor at
a university without regard to the fact that he could be PROSECUTED for sending the note.
Undoubtedly, the kid probably thought it was "funny" and hit "send" on his
computer, without thinking that 1) he was doing it from school property,
2) he was sending to to a state university, and 3) the note could be construed as a threat.
Now, he may possibly be criminally prosecuted for internet "stalking" or "intimidation".
What remains to be seen is whether or not his parents choose to make him take responsibility
for his actions, or whether they try to get him "off the hook"...

Besides, if we didn't allow people under 18 to go online, how would Andrew (on here) have found
the Romantics Website? Smiley  We wouldn't have been able to INFLUENCE him with our
love of The Romantics! Smiley
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Reply #4 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 7:30pm
 
Bravo, Iris.  I let my 6-year-old on the internet all the time.  He loves to look up stuff like websites that show pictures of giant fish caught, flags of the world, maps, how to build a birdhouse, pictures of aircraft, etc.

But I make sure that he is supervised, and he has parental controls set on his login.

Not letting your kid on the internet is like not letting your kid go to the library, watch tv, read books, or read the newspaper.
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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 7:58am
 
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There are lots of valuable and educational websites around that are helpful in teaching children
about the world around them. Where it goes astray is when the parents don't pay attention and the children wander
into other areas that are not age-appropriate.


the problem is there are just too many parents who do not pay attention to what their children are doing on the internet.  sure its easy to monitor them while they are still very young but into the teen years, it gets much harder.
in fact, i was at a public library looking something up and to my horror, i put in a search for some legal topic and was directed to some porn site.  this at a public library!!!  i never had the internet growing up and i do not feel as though my learning was impaired in the least.   why then do they ban the sale of cigarettes to anyone under the age of 18?  the same argument could be made there about parents not monitoring their children.
i believe more bad than good has come from the www.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15th, 2006 at 10:16am
 

Not having any children, it's not my place to comment here, but I will say that it's always something!  Back in the day.....parents were shocked to find out their kids had Playboy, Penthouse, Juggs, etc.  (I'm sure the list goes on and that their are many that I am not aware of!)  Smoking, drinking, internet porn, it's all the same principle.  It just seems to get worse as time goes on.  I do think that you should have parental controls on your computer.  But take a look at not only the names, but the photos that some of this kids are putting up.
I just did a show and some of the girls that I worked with are very, very young!  They were actually proud of the fact that their photos were being used with captions like "Wasted" under their picture.  French kissing their friends, both girls, etc.  Then there is some website called drunkcalls.com  also.  They are all quite proud of their accomplishment getting their photos and messages on these sites and even on the local news!  Something the parents must be really proud of! 
My father would have killed me~  But then again, I would have known better.  So, does it all come down with parents have no control over their kids and have not been good parents?  Something to think about!
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Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:12am
 
I think a lot of you hit it on the head with the problem lies with the parents. We got a computer in my house with internet when I was 8ish and still to this day it sits in a nice cabinet in the middle of the living room... angled just right so anyone in the kitchen/living room can see it. It wasn't until just last year until my mom let us hook the upstair computer(which was in my brother's and I's room) up to the net. My bestfriend on the other hand, whos family was very into computers, had a internet-ready computer in his bedroom at age 10, and the family computer wasn't in plain view. Parents shouldn't allow kids to sign up for stuff.

I was designing website by age 14  and I always knew better than to give out personal info... sites like MySpace and AIM 'require' someone to be 13 to sign up(its a law actually...) and by 13/14 I think most kids should know better than to give out personal info, if they don't know better well then schools/parents aren't doing something right!

But I do think some fault is with the kids too... like someone said about email/screennames, or sending emailings with threats and not realizing it. I'm sorry but by 14 most kids should know not to give out private info. If someone goes into high school and doesn't know that its bad to give out phone numbers on the internet then they shouldn't be allowed in high school!

There are many good parental controling programs... my parents had one for the longest time. Anytime anyu sexual word or swear word was mentioned in an email, on a website, in a IM chat window it woudl close out of that window and create a log the parents could view. Perhaps the problem isn't putting an age on the internet and banning everyone younger, but rather make parental control programs more of a staple with computer when they are bought.

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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2006 at 8:12am
 
Andrew wrote on Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:12am:
I think a lot of you hit it on the head with the problem lies with the parents.
There are many good parental controling programs... my parents had one for the longest time. Anytime anyu sexual word or swear word was mentioned in an email, on a website, in a IM chat window it woudl close out of that window and create a log the parents could view. Perhaps the problem isn't putting an age on the internet and banning everyone younger, but rather make parental control programs more of a staple with computer when they are bought.



Interesting!  I never knew that even existed!  Maybe you can share how that is done!
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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2006 at 9:55am
 
solodka wrote on Feb 18th, 2006 at 8:12am:
Interesting!  I never knew that even existed!  Maybe you can share how that is done!


Its a program that my parents bought. It has a database of words that trigger a computer script to run that exits out of the program instantly and takes a screenshot... so the parents can see what their kids were looking at when they review the problem.
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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2006 at 10:02am
 
Hey Andrew,
What is the program called?
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Reply #11 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 4:12am
 
Very interesting Andrew.

However, what happens when people use other ways to write out bad words?
i.e. using numbers instead of letters, etc?

Such as:

1 l0\/3 +h3 R()m@n+1c$

I've seen people call others @$$h013$ as well... :-P
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Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 7:21am
 
That takes too much time to think about! Huh
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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 8:25am
 
But see just because say I type out words like that... websites don't type stuff out like that, nor would every single person who talked to me. So yeah it may not catch everything, but it catches most of the stuff since not everything on the internet, every email, every IM, etc. is written like that.
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Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2006 at 8:33am
 
Andrew, what was the name of that software?
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